Legislature(2013 - 2014)BUTROVICH 205

03/28/2013 09:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ SB 73 PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION/MILITARY WIDOW(ER) TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HCR 4 HMONG-AMERICAN VETERANS DAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCR 4 Out of Committee
Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
= SB 45 FEE/TAX EXEMPTION FOR CERTAIN VEHICLES
Moved SB 45 Out of Committee
          SB 45-FEE/TAX EXEMPTION FOR CERTAIN VEHICLES                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:07:40 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR DYSON announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
SB 45.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
GENEVIEVE  WOJTUSIK,  Staff,  Senator  Lesil  McGuire,  presented                                                               
information related  to SB 45.  She offered to  answer questions.                                                               
She referred to an article  by GM Communications dealing with how                                                               
alternative fuel cars  are affected by cold  weather, in response                                                               
to a previous question by Senator Giessel.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON requested  answers to several questions  that came up                                                               
during the previous hearing of the bill.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WOJTUSIK  answered  the  question  about  the  fiscal  note,                                                               
stating that  last year's fiscal  note was much lower  at $20,000                                                               
compared to this  year's fiscal note which is  over $100,000. The                                                               
committee  noted  there  were  not  that  many  alternative  fuel                                                               
vehicles in  Alaska. The  sponsor is hoping  that this  bill will                                                               
motivate more people  to buy alternative fuel  vehicles. She said                                                               
the  committee has  drafted  a new  fiscal  note reflecting  last                                                               
year's fiscal note.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:08:56 AM                                                                                                                   
CURTIS THAYER,  Deputy Commissioner, Office of  the Commissioner,                                                               
Department of  Administration, explained  the fiscal note  for SB
45. The Department  of Administration submitted a  fiscal note on                                                               
February 22, 2013,  stating the costs to the  department would be                                                               
about  $110,000  in the  first  year  and $25,000  in  successive                                                               
years. He stated  that the department stands by  that fiscal note                                                               
and was unaware of the new fiscal note.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON noted a site  where the Vehicle Identification Number                                                               
(VIN) information is  found for free. He asked if  this bill will                                                               
require the department to check every VIN number in the state.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER  explained that  the  department  would look  at  VIN                                                               
numbers to  see who qualifies  for the special  registration fee.                                                               
There are programs that will run  the VIN number to determine the                                                               
type of  vehicle. The $110,000  was to  buy the program  and then                                                               
$25,000  was  for  the  subscription. He  noted  that  there  are                                                               
multiple vendors and he hoped the  proposed fiscal note is on the                                                               
high side. He said it is getting harder to track VIN numbers.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  commented that  the people  who want  this exemption                                                               
will identify  their specific vehicle,  and all that needs  to be                                                               
done is to  interact with the manufactures. He asked  if there is                                                               
an  identifier  in  the  VIN  number  that  tells  if  it  is  an                                                               
alternative fuel vehicle.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  said there is,  and a  program can decipher  that VIN                                                               
number and process it immediately.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:12:07 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  emphasized that  the fiscal note  two years                                                               
ago was  $20,000 with  no cost thereafter;  the fiscal  note this                                                               
year  is  for  $110,000  with   a  cost  of  $25,000  every  year                                                               
thereafter. He said  he supports the bill, but  thinks the fiscal                                                               
note is extremely high and unjustified.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON said  he shares  that opinion.  He noted  Mr. Thayer                                                               
said it was the high limit.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:13:04 AM                                                                                                                   
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:13:28 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR GIESSEL  asked for clarification  about the  $20 biennial                                                               
registration  fee on  line  6,  and on  line  9,  the $10  annual                                                               
registration fee. She suggested it was referring to one fee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. WOJTUSKI agreed that they were the same fee.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:14:30 AM                                                                                                                   
HOWARD  LENOX,  Regional   Director,  Government  Affairs-Western                                                               
Region, General Motors, testified in  support of SB 45. He listed                                                               
the types of qualified alternative  fuel vehicles the fee applies                                                               
to: CNG, LNG,  electric and plug-in hybrid  electric vehicles. He                                                               
noted the  national security issue  due to dependence  on foreign                                                               
oil.  He  said  that  vehicle  manufacturers  are  responding  by                                                               
producing alternative fuel  vehicles. Due to their  cost there is                                                               
a  need to  encourage  consumers  to take  action  in the  market                                                               
place. He  stressed the importance  incentives play  in promoting                                                               
the  use of  alternative fuel  vehicles. He  said SB  45 provides                                                               
such an  incentive. An important  aspect of  the bill is  that it                                                               
does not pick winners or losers from a technology perspective.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He noted that  Alaska will join 30 states that  have some form of                                                               
incentive  for  alternative  fuel vehicles.  He  thanked  Senator                                                               
McGuire and the committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  pointed out  that he and  Senator Giessel  have been                                                               
working  on  alternative  fuel  issues. He  asked  Mr.  Lenox  to                                                               
forward a  list of incentives  other jurisdictions  have offered,                                                               
and he requested an analysis of the hydrogen fuel vehicle.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:18:13 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  DYSON asked  what the  committee  wishes to  do about  the                                                               
fiscal notes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL noted  she  has more  questions.  She asked  Mr.                                                               
Thayer why  the fiscal  note does not  address the  lost revenues                                                               
from the reduced registration fees.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THAYER  said the  fiscal  note  is indeterminate  until  the                                                               
number of vehicles is known.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL noted  on  page 2  of the  fiscal  note it  says                                                               
"there are currently 2,301  strictly hybrid vehicles registered."                                                               
She  concluded  that  there  is   some  quantity  that  could  be                                                               
construed  for  a  fiscal  note.   She  asked  what  the  typical                                                               
registration fee is.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  said, depending  on the vehicle,  the vehicle  tax is                                                               
$50 to $60,  plus the Motor Vehicle Registration  Tax (MVRT), the                                                               
community tax  which can vary from  $18 to $100. There  is a loss                                                               
of revenue to DMV, as well as to the communities.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  clarified  that local  communities  would  lose                                                               
revenue.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. THAYER  commented that it  depends on the  registration. That                                                               
is  why  DMV   was  trying  to  quantify  the  cost   as  far  as                                                               
administering  the  program.  The  department  does  not  have  a                                                               
position on  the bill and  would probably lean  toward supporting                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  noted that these  are expensive cars.  She asked                                                               
what the average cost is.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. WOJTUSKI did not know.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON replied that the cheapest  ones are in the $20,000 to                                                               
$30,000  range and  the most  expensive are  around $750,000.  He                                                               
guessed that most fall into the $25,000 to $55,000 range.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:21:37 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR GIESSEL observed that the  reduction in registration fees                                                               
would benefit affluent folks. She voiced concern about that.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  said it is a  policy call whether this  minor change                                                               
will affect anyone's  buying habits. The bill does  send a signal                                                               
that the state wants to encourage alternative fuels.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked if the fiscal note should be amended.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said he compared  last year's fiscal note to                                                               
this year's. He agreed it was  a policy call and said he supports                                                               
the bill, but would like to see a reduced fiscal note.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  suggested moving  the  bill  on to  the  Senate                                                               
Finance Committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI said  he  would not  object  to moving  the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON suggested sending a  cover letter along with the bill                                                               
to  include the  committee's  suggestions. He  encouraged DMV  to                                                               
research VIN services that are available for no cost.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:24:37 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR GIESSEL moved to report  SB 45, version 28-LS0411\A, from                                                               
committee  with  individual   recommendations  and  attached  DOA                                                               
fiscal notes. There  being no objection, SB 45  was reported from                                                               
the Senate State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                    

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 73 Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 73
SB 73 CRA CS.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 73
SB 73 CS Changes.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 73
SB 73 Fiscal Note-1-2-032713-CED-N.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 73
SB 73 Dayton Letter.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 73
SB 73 KTVA Article.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 73
SB 73 2012ElectionResultsOFFICIAL.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 73
SB 73 BR_Final_3-17-12.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 73
HCR 4 - Sponsor Statement - Hmong Veterans Day.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 Ver U - Hmong-American Veterans Memorial Day.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Supporting Docment 1 Hmong Research Report.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Supporting Docment 2 Article - Facts And Details - Hmong and the Vietnam War.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Supporting Docment 3 Article - Minnesota’s Hmong veterans seek recognition.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Supporting Docment 4 Article - Why Are the Hmong in America.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Supporting Docment 5 Article - Lao Veterans of America.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Supporting Docment 6 Article - Laos Secret War.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Supporting Document 7 - Majority Press Release for Rep. LeDoux.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Letter of Support 1 - SGUVFD of USA - National President.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Letter of Support 2 - Steven Yang (SGU) Charter in Alaska.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Letter of Support 3 - Arthur Yang (SGU) Charter in Alaska.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
HCR 4 - Witness List - Hmong-American Veterans Memorial Day.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
HCR 4
SB 45 - Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 45
SB 45 Version A.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 45
SB 45 - Fiscal Note DOA-DMV-2-23-13.pdf SSTA 3/28/2013 9:00:00 AM
SB 45